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'Pretty Boy' Andrej Pejic Talks Sex, Love & Leaving His Gender to 'Artistic Interpretation'

This week’s New York Magazine Fall Fashion 2011 issue has a major feature on Andrej Pejic. How do I know that? Because Andrej’s video w/Aussie TV moved to the top spot this afternoon. I then know something’s going on. Voila, New York Magazine.

OK, I read the whole piece, a good overview of Andrej Pejic if you haven’t followed his rise, as we have at Anne of Carversville. What can I tell you that’s new?

Writer Alix Morris digs into the depths of Andrej Pejic’s transsexual identity in a way that hasn’t been done previously. Also interesting is the observation by Morris that Andrej’s physicality actually plays into the fashion industry’s current vision of beauty.

‘I guess professionally I’ve left my gender open to artistic interpretation,’ he says. This past year, he walked in both men’s and women’s shows for Jean Paul Gaultier (who describes Pejic as an “other­worldly beauty”), and was cast as ­Gaultier’s bride—traditionally a line’s pièce de ­résistance—in his Spring 2011 couture show. For New York’s Fashion Week in February, he modeled in five shows for men and four for women. Even at men’s shows, Galliano put him in “a skimpy little singlet” and Gaultier dressed him as Betty Catroux, Yves Saint Laurent’s androgynous female muse.

(Photo: Valérie Belin. Hair by David Martinez. Makeup by Odile Subra. Clothing by Gaspard Yurkievich.)Morris comes down where I reside on Andrej’s physicality. He looks very female and while he may walk the men’s shows, he’s often on the menswear runway dressed as a woman.

Andrej has only the faintest trace of an Adam’s apple. His jawline is delicate and while he shaves his legs, he has no chest or facial hair to speak of.

What he and others like the transsexual runway model Lea T (who was in a recent Riccardo Tisci campaign for Givenchy) are doing is sidestepping the gender issue altogether by not only passing as women but even managing to be a more ideal version of the impossibly hipless and curveless women the fashion industry fetishizes. Designers can use them and feel progressive without having to actually challenge the aesthetic norm.

Note this is the current size 0, not an ounce of fat, Black Swan aesthetic, not the 90s Supermodel aesthetic. This downsizing of an idealized vision of women’s bodies, post 90s Supermodels Crawford, Campbell & Co is a core subject of discussion at Anne of Carversville.

Andrej Pejic by Armin Morbach for Tush #4We learn that Andrej calls his transsexual, gender-bending reality ‘the situation’. 

‘I don’t feel the need to explain myself,” says Pejic, who has nicknamed his androgyny and its concomitant confusion “the situation,’ as in ‘they didn’t notice the situation’ or ‘the Japanese just loved the whole situation’ or ’ like having a level of mystery to this whole situation.’

‘In this society, if a man is called a woman, that’s the biggest insult he could get.’ He (Andrej) arches his eyebrows skeptically and asks, ‘Is that because women are considered something less?’ Later, he tells me, ‘I know people want me to sort of defend myself, to sit here and be like, ‘I’m a boy, but I wear makeup sometimes.’ But, you know, to me, it doesn’t really matter. I don’t really have that sort of strong gender identity—I identify as what I am. The fact that people are using it for creative or marketing purposes, it’s just kind of like having a skill and using it to earn money.’

Giving a nod to the famous Supermodels, Andrej makes it clear that he doesn’t get out of bed for $50 a day.

‘I don’t get out of bed for less than $50 a day,’ he deadpanned. ‘I want to make that clear to America. This is a new age of androgynous supermodels. We don’t get out of bed for less than $50 a day.’

Andrej is addressing the reality that although he was being shot as a woman, he was being paid men’s rates. Those days over and Andrej is no longer fashion’s best cut-rate deal.

Andrej Pejic by Collier Schorr for Dossier Spring 2011

Andrej takes back him comment that he’s have a sex change to become a Victoria’s Secret Angel. He isn’t thinking about having a sex change, unlike Lea T who is scheduled for her final surgery to become a woman this month.

People seeking the bottom line on Andrej Pejic’s own sexual preferences won’t get them in this article. He agrees that he attracts men and bi-curious women. ‘You know, I wouldn’t say that I’m really a sexual person, Andrej has volunteered in the past and is repeated in the article. ‘But I do appreciate love, and I would love to experience it someday. I don’t think I have yet.’

After that revelation, Andrej launches into an amusing recollection of pretending to be pregnant in Brazil’s airport.

The True Transformer

Another point of consensus between Alix Morris and myself regarding Andrej is his transformational ability. “He is a chameleon, a genius,” says director Rushka Bergman, former stylist for Michael Jackson. “There is nothing more boo-tee-fool, Andrej, than you!”

If you haven’t been Andrej’s film ‘Dark Narcissus’, enjoy it. I was stunned with Andrej’s range of expression and psychological connection, when I first saw the video. Anne

Andrej Pejic as the Dark Narcissus

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Andrej Pejic | Jez Smith | Oyster Magazine Feb/Mar 2011

Andrej Pejic | Gregory Derkenne | Citizen K International #59

Maryna Buniak & Andrej Pejic | Michelle Du Xuan | ‘She is the Boy & He is the Girl’ | Carbon Copy

Andrej Pejic Gender Bender | Collier Schorr | Dossier Journal Spring 2011

Andrej Pejic | Marcin Tyszka | ‘jeu de roles’ | L’Officiel Paris May 2011

Andrej Pejic Gender Bender | Collier | Dossier Journal Spring 2011

Andrej Pejic | ‘Dark Narcissus’ by Alexander Hankoff | A Masterpiece

Andrej Pejic | Tetsuharu Kubota | Commons & Sense Man

Andrej Pejic | Marcin Tyszka | ‘Mr Unisex’ | Viva! Moda

Andrej Pejic | Thomas Lohr | ‘Boy Wonder’ | StyleCaster

Andrej Pejic | Anthony Maule | ‘Gold Digger’ | Dazed & Confused April 2011

In Paris Fashion Week Hillary Alexander Interview (see video), the always-thinking Andrej Pejic says he would get a sex change operation for Victoria’s Secret. This young wo(man) will go places.

Andrej Pejic Says He Would Sex Change for Victoria’s Secret

Private Sitting | Andrej Pejic | Sabine Villiard | ‘Marilyn, Where Art Thou’

Andrej Pejic | Juergen Teller | ‘Sie ist cin Model’ | Zeit Magazin February 2011

Fashion Model Andrej Pejic’s Video Interview | A Star Is Born

Andrej Pejic | Thomas Lohr | The Block Magazine S/S 2011

Take 2 | Karolina Kurkova & Andrej Pejic | Jean Paul Gaultier S/S Campaign

Andrej Pejic & More | Leslie Kee | ‘Factory Girl | WWD Japan

Andrej Pejic by Damon Baker | Private Sitting

Ginta Lapina & Andrej Pejic | Marc by Marc Jacobs S/S’ll Ad Campaign

Andrej Pejic Is Gaultier’s Pistol-Packing Blond Bond Girl At Fall 2011 Men’s Show

Andrej Pejic | Erminando Aliaj | X-CAPE Fall 2010 Campaign

Andrej Pejic | Thomas Lohr | ‘History Is Gonna Change’ | i-D December 2010

Andrej Pejic | Mathieu Berthemy & Paul Kemler | Oyster #90

Andrej Pejic | Armin Morbach | Tush #4

Andrej Pejic | Willy Vanderperre | Arena Homme F/W 2010

Andrej Pejic & Jana K | Matthew Brookes | Vogue Turkey November 2010

‘Venus in Furs’ | Steven Meisel | Vogue Italia November 2010

Lea T, Andrej Pejic, Malgosia Bela, Daphne Groeneveld | Mert & Marcus | Vogue Paris Sept 2010

Sylvester Ulv, Andrej Pejic, Gabriel Gronvik, John C & Boudewijn | Karim Sadli | Candy 

Reader Comments (4)

I actually love this article, I would like to put emphasys on the part where you are talking about what andrej thinks about is own gender identity, and how he dosnt feel the need of stand up as a boy who wears makeup, because, he just does not feel that need at all, to me that represents that he completly embraces is femininty. I really thank you for making that the point of your article, and my congratulations go to Andrej for being the only model right know that stands for and represent really gender bender people.

September 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterAndres r

You're so welcome, Andres. Andrej appears to be very much his own person, and that is a great challenge for all of us -- both genders at any age. Perhaps he's an old soul with wisdom, but I agree with you that accepting his femininity and not making a caricature of himself is refreshing. Not to play armchair psychologist, but it seems kinder and more humane to his own self identity as well.

September 1, 2011 | Registered CommenterAnne

He's has facial feminization surgery... He wasn't born looking like a woman and I would think everyone would know that and his mother has made that very clear with pictures that she has shown of him growing up. At one point and time you could still see images of him before his super stardom men and women look a lot alike when they are super thin the only diffrence really is the jaw line.
When the jaw line , cheeck, and forehead are feminized by cutting away bone and removing muscle tissue you are left with a more elptical shape and a mcuh more femenine vasage of beauty and with andrej and Kim T they have both had this done . Those were the major changes to his apperance.
He a lovely person both inside and out. It's a job just like any other and there comes benifits and disadvantages. I was told that he lived in basicly a refugee camp before his career took off, and now he's number 32 in the top 50 male model list. I am very proud of him for not giving up his dreams, very proud.
He inspires me and thats what he is suppose to do inspire artist and others.
And he has my artistic love as well.

August 18, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterV.V.

World is not facing an epidemic of transgender, transexual, bisexual etc behavior. It's the evolution of the species. Six thousand years of male domination are over. Women & intersex are the new world order...

October 5, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMauz W. Collier

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